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Comment by ADAM on November 25, 2012 at 9:33pm

I second this COS idea it sounds like a way to get your foot in the door with government management on a smaller scale. But you got to start somewhere.

Comment by ADAM on November 25, 2012 at 8:16pm

A very disturbing analogy. So we can't count on the state or federal level. Then we need the people. If we can change the view of the public then the government wont matter. Almost like we need a disaster so we can be first responders. This is all so hard to wrap my head around but there has got to be something. The messed up thing is that we have a right to a militia but then someone made amendments to those rights to say we don't have that right. Mandy we should start small. Like a Booth at the Buckley log show to raise awareness. Seriously the only sufferance between a militia and a search and rescue group is guns. That's the messed up thing. They want to limit our rights to where it is ok to come together to help someone as long as we don't carry guns...yeah I know I'm ranting now

Comment by Doc Bunny (Company CO, 42 AIG) on November 25, 2012 at 8:06pm

Unfortunately we cannot advocate for freedom on one hand, and support the current system with the other.The system has been slowly and intentionally perverted over a period of decades to make it impossible to undo the damage. I truly believe attempting to work within this system as the definition of insanity. Trying the same thing again and again, yet expecting different results.

As far as the election goes, the only difference I see between Romney and Obama is the speed of the decline. I don't think that either one was in the least bit interested in following the Constitution. The same thing goes for the Gubernatorial race. And would it really matter if they were? No. The simple reality is that the priest king is one man against an entrenched bureaucracy. He really is powerless. Sure, he can appoint heads of the bureaucratic organizations, but the damage is done by career shitbricks deep within these organizations that for the most part have immunity for their actions.

The leftists spent thirty years infiltrating the Government: local, state, and federal levels. They did their work well.They are driven by ideology and will never quit because they believe in their cause. I would say that as a whole they believe more than we do. These folks are quite literally willing to dedicate their entire lives to enacting the change the feel is needed. They will work whatever shit job that has to be worked to see their cause fulfilled. They have been more successful than us. 

I work in the medical field, let me put this in my terms. The current system is a malignant cancer that is inoperable, and the patient is now too sick to be saved. Putting large amounts of effort and money into a patient who has multiple organ failure will do nothing in the end except prolong the suffering. At best what we can do is to make the patient comfortable and prepare the family for what is coming.

Comment by Doc Bunny (Company CO, 42 AIG) on November 25, 2012 at 7:45pm

You are right.

The CoS could be viewed as a rival government. In a way, it is. Some people do not view the current government as legitimate, and have withdrawn their consent to be governed by it. This is where the Committee of Safety fits in. I see it as the legitimate local Government, and in all honesty am not concerned with how the local police state views it. I was declared a domestic terrorist by the DHS years ago. They already want me dead. When the Director of "Homeland Security" calls people like me domestic terrorists,that's not opinion- that's national policy. I personally don't see the CoS as "rival" because the standing Government has lost any claim they ever had on my loyalty after sending me to war and then declaring me an enemy of the state. I answer to the Committee of Safety, not to whoever the current priest king happens to be. As Henry David Thoreau says "cast your whole vote".  I recommend that you check out Gary Hunts "outpost of freedom" and you will learn quite a bit about the CoS. Gary really is a subject matter expert on this.

The very fact that the State Guard exists in its current fashion is an obscene waste of money, regardless how little it is. If they spend one cent on that abortion known as the "state guard" it's one penny too much.

Comment by SGM Settles on November 25, 2012 at 7:28pm

Doc, the Commitee of Safety (Wikepedia entry) looks to me like it might be viewed as a rival/insurgent government at the city/county level.

I'm not confident either that the state will get its shit together. That's why, in the short term, I see a better chance of success in working with county authority - specifically the sheriff.

By the way: I don't think that the state spends any money on the State Guard - they must provide their own uniforms, and have no equipment.

I also agree that the National Guard has become too much a Federal tool - but then, that's the Federal statute & Congress' responsibility to provide for the Militia. The President may Federalize any that he needs on his own authority, but Congress has limited how many, and for how long, without their perission (these numbers include Army, Navy, and USAF reserve - not part of the Militia). Otherwise they belong to the State Governor.

Comment by ADAM on November 25, 2012 at 10:53am

we need to get the people on board, weather they join or not if we can get the people to support us then we have the real power. thing is how do we take a media demonized word like "militia" and bring it to a positive light.

Comment by Doc Bunny (Company CO, 42 AIG) on November 25, 2012 at 10:35am

This is exactly why we subordinate ourselves to a Committee of Safety. The Governor and the President are nowhere in our chain of command. They could order anything they want, but we do not jump until the committee says how high.

As much as I would like to see the State get it's shit together and deal with the militia issues like adults-by recognizing them and regulating them for the good of the state; I understand that that is pure fantasy. The State is not interested in having a functional militia system. The State Guard is a obscene waste of taxpayers money, and the National Guard long ago became a branch of the US Army. The feds pay for the weapons, the gear, and the training. The name tapes say "US ARMY". The Feds run the National Guard, the State gets to borrow them every once in a while to fill sandbags. The State of Washington is weaker for this.

The 42nd exists to protect the people of the State of Washington. In order to do this effectively we must seek our own qualified leadership; since  the State Government is not interested in doing the job. We have settled on the Committee of Safety. This form of local Government has hundreds of years of prescient here in America. I truly don't think we could do better than a local government taking care of it's own!.

I'm quite certain that the local police state will have a big problem with that, but hey, they had their chance.

Comment by SGM Settles on November 25, 2012 at 6:11am

Note too, that the Governor's emergency powers include that during a declared state emergency, he may prohibit anyone to be armed outside of their home or business. That statute must also go!

Comment by SGM Settles on November 25, 2012 at 6:06am

Doc, I agree with you about RCW 38.04.030, but this where they get us:

RCW 38.40.120: Authorized military organizations.

"No organized body other than the recognized militia organizations of this state, armed forces of the United States, students of educational institutions where military science is a prescribed part of the course of instruction or bona fide veterans organizations shall associate themselves together as a military company or organize or parade in public with firearms: PROVIDED, That nothing herein shall be construed to prevent authorized parades by the organized militia of another state or armed forces of foreign countries. Any person participating in any such unauthorized organization shall be guilty of a misdemeanor."

I think that political initiatives need to be two pronged: At the state AND county levels. Local organizations need to work with county authority - specifically the sheriff. State authority comes first in the form of statute (controlled by the legislature and judges - who should long ago have tossed out 38.40.120), and recognition by the National Guard - specifically the State Adjutant General, who commands all Militia in the state - Organized and Unorganized.

The Militia has four functions: Repel foreign invasion; put down rebellion; assist during natural disaster; and keep the government in check. The first three are in the US Constitution - Article I, Section 8: Powers of Congress.

“To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Inv...;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

I have found that Clark County authorities are afraid of anyone "staring their own militia," which how they view any group other than the State Guard - which is toothless. On the other hand, there is a sheriff in New Mexico who actually uses his local militia to beef up the strength of his deputies on occasion.

Washington State Guard: http://washingtonguard.org/wsg/index.shtml

Therefore, to not be treated as they would the Black Panthers or an Aryan Militia (or the Hutterees for that matter), we must seek trust and recognition.

I would ask any government official who fears the Militia: "Why are you afraid: what are YOU doing which is unconstitutional, and which would cause the Militia to be a threat to you?"

Comment by ADAM on November 24, 2012 at 9:37pm

There we go doc. Way to lay it out.

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